The Fourth Plenary Session of the 20th Central Committee of the Communist Party of China regards promoting the benign interaction between independent innovation in science and technology and independent cultivation of talents as an important part of promoting the development of educational technology talents, enriching the era connotation of the theme of high-quality development during the 15th Five Year Plan period. Technological independent innovation and talent cultivation are like two wheels of a car and two wings of a bird. Only by working together and promoting each other to form a positive interaction can the "primary productive force" of technology receive a continuous stream of talent support. At present, there are still some shortcomings in the organic integration of independent technological innovation and talent cultivation, and there is an urgent need for systematic planning in areas such as planning linkage, policy coordination, resource coordination, and evaluation linkage. Plan integration and anchor the goal of "same frequency resonance". Independent technological innovation is an inexhaustible driving force for the prosperity and development of a country. In the context of the deepening of the new round of technological revolution and industrial transformation, it is necessary to formulate a strategic plan for independent technological innovation and guide the direction of development. To achieve a positive interaction between independent technological innovation and independent talent cultivation, it is necessary to promote a close connection and resonance between the strategic planning of independent technological innovation and independent talent cultivation. The Outline of the Plan for Building a Strong Education Country (2024-2035) clearly proposes to establish a discipline setting adjustment mechanism and talent training model driven by scientific and technological development and national strategic needs. During the 15th Five Year Plan period, we will further coordinate the construction of a strong education country, a strong science and technology country, and a strong talent country. The development plans of various regions and fields should deeply grasp the direct correlation and linkage between the main forces of independent innovation in science and technology and independent talent cultivation, the hierarchical nature of practical effects, and the differences in the presentation of laws, so that the plans for independent innovation in science and technology and independent talent cultivation can form a resonance effect at the same frequency, and continuously enhance the new driving force of new quality productivity. Policy synergy creates an "optimal combination" effect. Technological independent innovation is exploratory and risky, unfolding in the dual possibilities of confirmation and falsification, success and failure, which requires the assistance and support of various policies. The independent cultivation of talents requires a large amount of funds and facilities, which cannot generate immediate economic and social benefits. However, the quantity and quality of independent cultivation of talents also affect the future and destiny of national development, and require sustained policy guidance and promotion. In the process of accelerating the construction of an innovative country, the key to achieving a positive interaction between independent technological innovation and independent talent cultivation lies in the close coordination of various policies and the formation of the optimal combination. The outline for building a strong intellectual property country and the plan for protecting and utilizing intellectual property rights, which have been successively introduced by the country, have formed a series of policies to break down barriers between science and technology and talent management, and promote the orderly and reasonable flow of talents. Facing the "15th Five Year Plan", we need to further increase policy support, improve policy coordination mechanisms, and build a full chain, precise, and warm independent innovation talent service system and talent cultivation system. To face the future and key fields and technologies, we need to promote the integration of industry, academia, and research, as well as cooperation between society, schools, and enterprises, to form an overall effectiveness of policy combinations, and to provide more practical and powerful policy support for the strategy of building a strong country through science and technology and talent. Resource coordination, creating a "shared and common" ecosystem. In the process of comprehensively deepening reform and continuously expanding opening up, achieving a positive interaction between independent innovation in science and technology and independent talent cultivation requires good resource coordination. In recent years, we have made unprecedented efforts to build and create various bases and platforms for independent technological innovation and talent cultivation, and have achieved many important results. In the face of the "15th Five Year Plan", it is necessary to continuously provide close resources and a good ecology for the benign interaction between independent innovation of science and technology and independent cultivation of talents in the open sharing of existing facilities and platforms at all levels, and in various science and technology parks where the power of science and technology education is integrated, so as to transform various potential science and technology education resources into practical driving forces for independent development. Evaluation linkage, realizing the confirmation of "common value". Technological independent innovation is a difficult and constantly evolving project that requires willpower and perseverance, as well as encouragement and motivation. Scientific, accurate, positive, and effective evaluation plays an important role in guiding and promoting technological independent innovation. The independent cultivation of talents is carried out in a silent atmosphere of dedication and nurturing. Whether for the education group or individuals, it is a resilient process that requires practical and rule-based evaluation to provide stable and reliable assistance to educators. In the era of deep integration of technological innovation and talent cultivation, promoting a positive interaction between independent technological innovation and talent cultivation requires the integration of evaluation mechanisms and evaluation standards. To establish a common value system, values, and value orientation between the two. Facing the "15th Five Year Plan", it is urgent to take quality, effectiveness, and contribution as the common evaluation orientation, seize the development high ground, stimulate new quality productivity, and enhance national core competitiveness as the common goal and task, and form a common internal basis for evaluation. At the same time, it is necessary to deepen project evaluation, institutional assessment, and income distribution reform, open up talent exchange channels among enterprises, universities, and research institutes, and form common external conditions directly related to evaluation. Under the guidance of innovative culture and scientific spirit, a social environment conducive to the comprehensive development of human freedom and the overall progress of the country should be created. The period of the 15th Five Year Plan is a crucial period for consolidating the foundation and making comprehensive efforts to achieve socialist modernization. Promoting a positive interaction between independent technological innovation and talent cultivation is precisely the decisive factor and reliable force for seizing opportunities, grasping key points, responding to challenges, and overcoming difficulties. Its core lies in autonomy, the focus is on interaction, and the key is positive. Promoting a positive interaction between independent technological innovation and talent cultivation is not only an urgent requirement to solve the bottleneck problems in key fields, but also a fundamental plan to achieve high-level technological self-reliance and shape new advantages for future development. The independent innovation of science and technology and the independent cultivation of talents are a two faced and dialectically unified strategic system. Guided by national strategic needs and driven by deepening reforms, closely coupling innovation practice with talent cultivation will surely form a surging wave of "innovation nurtures talent, talent drives innovation", and win the initiative and create the future in the new round of technological revolution and industrial transformation. (New Press) (Author: Gong Lanyi, a teacher at the School of Marxism, Hangzhou Normal University)